Monday, December 22, 2008

Professional or Wannabe

How do you know whether a person is a good Remote Viewer or a good Psychic? Results of course! How well they have scored on average and how many times they have actually provided good information. Ok, that seems pretty clear, but what do they actually do with this information?

Let’s say a usually pretty accurate psychic has been asked to look into a criminal case. The psychic describes the possible perpetrator and is able to make a composite sketch. The psychic even picks up on a possible name.
What does that Psychic do?

1. Runs to the media with all this information and tell them that this person is the perpetrator? In order to prove to the public that they can actually help in criminal cases. OR
2. Go to the police with that information and give them the results of their psychic session and quietly leave, letting the police do their job. Not getting any recognition in the media but letting the police do their job and getting the person responsible arrested.

I can tell you for sure that option number 1 will definitely NOT be appreciated by the police. Since it is not helpful during an investigation to point out any possible suspects! The psychic forgets that what they have perceived is an indication (a strong indication at times) but not a fact until there is proof in the form of evidence. The psychic forgets that the suspect may just run if they have been pointed out in public, which is not helpful to the police at all! Or the public accusation can cause a rage or riot against this person, who may or may not be guilty! The psychic may create a couple of minutes of fame but they will never be asked to work on any police cases, their name will be blacklisted. And that is even worse if the psychic turns out to be wrong! They will create a bad name for the entire community by not thinking about the consequences of their actions. In worse case they could be arrested for obstruction of justice or sued for slander!

Option number 2 may not seem the most spectacular one and it may not create credentials instantly, but in the long run the people you work with will appreciate this approach much more than the wild accusations and media attention in option number 1. After all is said and done and the case is closed and there is no way your information can cause any harm by publishing, you can ask if it is ok to let the public know. Only the police can tell you whether it can’t interfere with the course of justice anymore. And yes, you do need to have patience!

That is the difference between a ‘professional’ approach and the ‘wild media circus’ approach.

We would all like acknowledgement for our contributions in certain cases and we would all like people saying well done...thanks for the help! But the most important thing is that you actually contributed to making this world a little bit safer and let other people do their job!

5 comments:

Andy said...

Debbie Malone, as part of Perth's Psychic Taskforce, last year released an indentikit sketch and other information to a live audience at two separate shows and the media. Was this a good idea?

Of course, if the police found psychics to be a useful resource, they would employ them rather than wasting millions on difficult detective work. Why don't they?

Psyforce1 said...

Debbie Malone, as part of Perth's Psychic Taskforce, last year released an indentikit sketch and other information to a live audience at two separate shows and the media. Was this a good idea? In my opinion..that was not a wise idea, but it was the managements decision.

Of course, if the police found psychics to be a useful resource, they would employ them rather than wasting millions on difficult detective work. Why don't they?

You are mistaking detectives and psychics are not the same. Psychics are 'witnesses' detectives have to find the facts!
Police do use 'psychics' as 'witnesses' but they are just a member of the public like anyone else.

It is very rare that psychics are being asked by the police to provide them with information on a case.

The US military employed psychics over a number of years in a classified program. Until someone went public. (Read the 89.000 pages of declassified information from the CIA)

Police can not employ members of the public without them having to go through the same 'procedures' and confidenciality agreements.

Ex-military personel trained as psychics HAVE been used to provide information. And it does help make the difficult detective work easier!

Trouble is... you don't really want to know... the police and military are actually using psi abilities in that way...do you?

I suggest you go and research the facts and look further than the general opinion.

Good luck!

Andy said...

I would actually love for it to be true but I'm not seeing the results.

Yes, the US did indeed run a remote viewing establishment but it appears, for all intents and purposes, to have been completely useless. If it was working, they would have retained it regardless of it's being made public.

Have you ever looked at the Australian missing persons database and asked yourself why no psychic seems capable of finding any of these people? Are they just not trying or is psychic "intuition", not really much different to the intuition most people feel they experience from time to time?

Again, if psychics could do what they claim (and I'd argue that they act as detectives not witnesses) then police forces the world over would employ them.

Police Academy training, in Australia, is measured in weeks not years and the rewards, both financial and emotional, would be enormous - though perhaps not as lucrative as selling tickets to entertainment-style shows.

Psyforce1 said...

I would actually love for it to be true but I'm not seeing the results.

No Andy, I am affraid that you do not wand this to be true and you do not want to see the results!Remote Viewer Joe McMonEagle...yes the ex-military RV-er has succesfully helped finding 9 of 11 missing persons live on Japanese television!

There is also a group in the US formed by former police detectives and experts who...together with psychics and Remote Viewers provide information on cases!


Yes, the US did indeed run a remote viewing establishment but it appears, for all intents and purposes, to have been completely useless. If it was working, they would have retained it regardless of it's being made public.

There are indications that they HAVE retained it and only a fraction of it has been declassified

Have you ever looked at the Australian missing persons database and asked yourself why no psychic seems capable of finding any of these people? Are they just not trying or is psychic "intuition", not really much different to the intuition most people feel they experience from time to time?

Psychic intuition is really not that different from the intuition most people feel from time to time! Exactly! Yet, some people have trained their intuition and dare to LISTEN to it!

Again, if psychics could do what they claim (and I'd argue that they act as detectives not witnesses) then police forces the world over would employ them.

You are generalizing here...what EXACTLY DO THEY CLAIM?
And who is to say the police do not use their talents? They may not EMPLOY them...but they do use their information! THAT I CAN CONFIRM!


Police Academy training, in Australia, is measured in weeks not years and the rewards, both financial and emotional, would be enormous - though perhaps not as lucrative as selling tickets to entertainment-style shows.

Actually I have personally considered the Police Academy...but the money is not that good and emotionally...well eh... I have personally talked to police officers and detectives and it was definately not as rewarding as it appears to be, according to them. That is ofcourse 'off the record'.

Have YOU ever contributed to solving a missing persons case or perhaps location any criminal, leading to an arrest.. Andy?

Have you really looked at the Missing Persons website and statistics?

In Australia someone goes missing every 15 minutes! 95% of those people return home safely! Some make contact out of their own and others will be found.

What you are seeing on the missing persons website is only 5% of the people that have not been found!

And against all odds, there are people who do not give up on those who have not been found yet!

Andy said...

Why would I not want psychic powers to be true? I welcome DNA testing, even though I don't understand it. If it helps solve crimes, it's a good thing. I just don't see it happening with psychics (if you have a link to the McMonEagle case...?).

I know that being a regular police officer is a thankless task. I do in fact know a few. But we're talking about someone with a sixth sense, someone who doesn't have to do things the old fashioned way.

But perhaps my opinion is driven too much by TV psychics like Edward, Van Praagh, Browne and the contestants on last year's "The One" - none of whom appear to be even mildly psychic.

If there are genuine psyshics, then they need to join skeptics in outing the publicity-seeking charlatans who give their "profession" a bad name.

I can accept the notion of people with heightened intuition - though I don't see how this leads to having a Native American spirit guide. It's seems like a heck of a jump. I also don't see how having greater faith in intuition would make that intuition more accurate.